From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 26 8:57: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1C037B405; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011226165652.XLAN6450.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:56:52 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBQGuq400898; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:56:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112261656.fBQGuq400898@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Dirk Froemberg , "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_5 In-reply-to: <20011226163408.B13979@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200112261401.fBQE1hb47452@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20011226151357.A13721@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011226154748.A11930@physik.TU-Berlin.DE> <20011226163408.B13979@freebie.xs4all.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Wilko Bulte message dated "Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:34:08 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:56:52 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves me right, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:47:48PM +0100, Dirk Froemberg wrote: > > Hi! > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:13:57PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > > > Just a minor question: at which point in the 4.5 release cycle > > > > will a RELENG_4_5 tag appear? I'd be more than happy to test > > > > -PRERELEASE and/or -BETA on a couple of machines, but I'd rather > > > > change my cvsupfiles from RELENG_4_4 to RELENG_4_5 than RELENG_4. > > > > Saves me from changing them back after -RELEASE. > > > > > > RELENG_4_5 == 4.5RELEASE > > > > Hmm, not quite: > > > > RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE == 4.5-RELEASE 8-) > > OK... ;-) What I was trying to say that RELENG_4_5 won't be there > before 4.5 is released. Well, it will, but only for about two days before the release. The RELENG_4_5 branch will be used for final tweaking of a release before the release happens...it automagically turns into the bugfix branch after the release date. The original poster referred to a "RELENG_4_5 tag". Just to clarify, RELENG_4_5 is not a tag, but it's a CVS branch. We want to create this branch fairly late in the release cycle, so that the release branch gets all of the bug fixes, MFCs, etc. applied during the release testing process. If (for example) a last-minute security fix shows up after RELENG_4_5 is created, the fix needs to get committed to HEAD, RELENG_4, and RELENG_4_5 (at the least!). > > Probably RELENG_4_5 will appear not before 4.5-RELEASE. But in the end > > it's up to the release engineer. > > I think the normal sequence of events is establishing RELENG_4_5_0 > and then RELENG_4_5 to contain critical (security) fixes. But I could > be wrong. Studying the commit logs might give you the ultimate clue I > suppose. This is indeed up to the release engineers, but there *is* a reasonably well-documented process for all of this...for the current dates for 4.5-RELEASE, see: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/releng45.html Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message