From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:28:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DB81065670 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9748FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:57:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:57:42 +0800 Message-Id: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> References: To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:03 -0000 On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. >=20 > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? >=20 > - Nerius Apple has had a mixed relationship giving back to the BSD community. = They did hire several developers over time and do have several projects = that they have open sourced. Launchd & iCal server are two of the bigger = ones. I personally feel that they could do better and certainly could = have done things differently in a way that would have helped the = community and built an even stronger product base but let's face it they = sure aren't listening to me. In recent years their marketing as gone to some lengths to scrub the = references to BSD & UNIX from the brochures. It's like they are ashamed = of their roots, again personally I think they hired some new anti-geeks = that just don't get it. I would suggest you look at spreading your investment around to several = BSD supportive companies. Obviously Apple and Juniper pop up to the top = of the list. I would have offered Isilon but they have been assimilated = into the beast know as EMC so that may not be an option. At the end of the day they are a company, and companies must make money = in order to survive. Therefore, do not get too attached to their BSD = rhetoric because the winds of business can change direction at any = moment. On a side note: I would love to find a comprehensive list of both public = and private companies that are BSD supportive. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking