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Date:      Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:05:38 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Nick Hibma <hibma@skylink.it>, FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail) 
Message-ID:  <199912011605.JAA02250@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Dec 1999 01:38:32 PST." <199912010938.BAA00461@mass.cdrom.com> 
References:  <199912010938.BAA00461@mass.cdrom.com>  

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In message <199912010938.BAA00461@mass.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes:
: The only "right" solution is for us to mandate that people down cards 
: before ejecting them.  The physical design of pccards basically gives us 
: no other option.  No matter how hard we try to get it "right" for 
: spontaneous removal, we can't win that fight.

I agree with this.  In fact the pccard standard is very careful to
state that pccard and cardbus support hot insertion rather than hot
swap.

I wanted to make it suck less and give poorly written drivers more of
a chance to work.

Warner


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