From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 08:18:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E057B16A414; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [83.171.239.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D8743D45; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:17:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k4F8HjGP074224; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:17:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.157] (pc157.ebs.gr [10.1.1.157]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k4F8HaA6052521; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:17:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Message-ID: <44683920.2020402@ebs.gr> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:17:36 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon References: <44670ED7.7050602@ebs.gr> <20060515041242.GA30666@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20060515041242.GA30666@soaustin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fbsd@a1poweruser.com, ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:18:04 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 02:04:55PM +0300, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >> I believe that one solution to the scalability problem of creating and >> maintaining updated packages, would be to decentralize it more. Each >> time I submit an update for one of the ports I maintain, I've already >> build the relevant packages, as a QA measure. There should be no need to >> wait for the ports cluster to build the official version, instead of >> using my own, modulo perhaps the higher quality assurance you'd get from >> Kris's build infrastructure. > > You have built the package for one build environment (buildenv). There > are 12. See http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portsoverall.py. Quite right. But I think that would still be helpful to the majority of users (of packages). If a maintainer can't build a package for a particular build environment due to lack of resources, we can always use the regular cluster builds for these architectures. We just gained a more timely release of the most wanted package(s), no? Frankly, the availability of up-to-date packages is the only issue from this thread I really care about. I've been contemplating about graphical package installers for FreeBSD for some time and most ideas fall short since there would not be much point in using a package installer without... er... packages :-) Regards, Panagiotis