Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 03:46:22 +0000 From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 262873] Update: The FreeBSD GNOME Project Message-ID: <bug-262873-9-cNtT2GBDWk@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> In-Reply-To: <bug-262873-9@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> References: <bug-262873-9@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D262873 --- Comment #5 from Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> --- (In reply to Charlie Li from comment #3) > GNOME uses Wayland by default, On FreeBSD GNOME cannot use Wayland at all due to bug 258042 and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1800 If one doesn't need GNOME itself then various GNOME applications (e.g., gnome-calendar) work fine under Wayland. Most FreeBSD contributors interested in Wayland focus on wlroots nowadays: - licensed under MIT thus similar to BSD in spirit (important for proprieta= ry vendors or anyone with GNU allergy) - inclusive upstream that tries hard to be portable and doesn't cheat POSIX= via `-D_GNU_SOURCE` or `-D__BSD_VISIBLE` - no single stakeholder: sway, wayfire, gamescope, phoc, kwinft, river, lab= wc, cage, cagebreak, dwl, etc. - flexible architecture, see also https://wayfire.org/2019/02/24/X11-WLC-Libweston-Wlroots.html and https://subdiff.org/blog/2021/wlroots-in-kwinft/ - avoids DE-centric bloat like DBus, see also https://blogs.kde.org/2020/10/11/linux-desktop-shell-ipc-wayland-vs-d-bus-a= nd-lack-agreement-when-use-them - like Xorg you still need a window manager - like Xorg has many protocol extensions (some are shared with KDE and Mir) - like Xorg has simple API (wlr_scene since 0.15.0) - large actively developed ecosystem (e.g., unlike weston, swc) - supports modern features like Variable Refresh Rate, Vulkan renderer, DRM leasing > thus the lack of dependency link is correct. Likely because the Handbook already describes installing Xorg in a separate subchapter, preceeding GNOME. For examples, xorg-minimal is suggested as a smaller alternative. Curiously, kde5 meta-package does pull xorg-server via plasma5-plasma-deskt= op via xf86-input-libinput. (In reply to Graham Perrin from comment #4) > pkg_tree -v gnome | grep wayland- Since bug 227509 binary packages for desktop stuff almost always have wayla= nd as an indirect dependency. Try testing Wayland support from Xorg comfort zo= ne: $ pkg install cage firefox $ : ${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR:=3D$(mktemp -dt .run)} $ cage -d env -u DISPLAY firefox about:support [...] Window Protocol: wayland [...] $ sockstat -u USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root Xorg 1111 4 stream /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 [...] foo cage 2222 8 stream -> /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 foo cage 2222 25 stream /tmp/.run.XXXX/wayland-0 [...] foo firefox 3333 8 stream -> /tmp/.run.XXXX/wayland-0 [...] --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=
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