From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DF16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carton@Ivy.NET) Received: from sakima.Ivy.NET (sakima.Ivy.NET [69.31.131.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693E143D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:12:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carton@Ivy.NET) Received: from castrovalva.Ivy.NET (castrovalva.Ivy.NET [IPv6:2001:4830:2150:c0::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sakima.Ivy.NET (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FCF2FF5F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by castrovalva.Ivy.NET (Postfix, from userid 405) id 48D1E12FB03; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:12:47 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org References: <200601162038.k0GKcaU1061083@www.freebsd.org> <20060117023037.30631.qmail@web34007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1137485947.12144.20.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> From: Miles Nordin MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Jan_17_10:12:36_2006-1"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:12:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1137485947.12144.20.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> (Robert Slade's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:19:07 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: T-gnus/6.17.2 (based on No Gnus v0.2) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.4 (alpha--netbsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Subject: Re: sparc64/91882: Ultra 10 mouse/keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:13:02 -0000 --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Jan_17_10:12:36_2006-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "rs" == Robert Slade writes: rs> The problem is not with Xorg, that works. The problem is with the Xorg config file. I think the config file should either be shipped so that it always works, or if someone feels there are really important knobs there, then with commentable stanzas for type 5 / usb / sysmouse, and one of them uncommented that works for type 5 mice which seem to be overwhelmingly common. rs> during install the mouse demon is not installed unlike the rs> i386 fbsd version. Is there a reason for that, or is it a bug? But yes I guess you could fix it that way, too I doubt any of the people asking really care, so if one is easier than the other... rs> the problem report was addressed to a lack of mouse drivers rs> which was incorrect. rs> If the OP had googled for an answer he would have found it. ok, fine, agreed, FreeBSD and Xorg are FANTASTIC and have ALL THE DRIVERS . but what difference does that make to the issue we're discussing? We both agree that there is a problem since people keep asking, so it seems like the fact that people keep asking is the important fact in the PR, not misunderstood minutae on the part of the reporter or whether or not the reporter can use google or whether or not he smells nice. rs> would humbly suggest that issue is addressed in the rs> errata. I'm just saying that an errata that says ``everyone should cut and paste the following into one of the files we shipped you on your system, because you'll need it to make things work'' seems like DTWT. It's bad enough Xorg makes you mess around with video timings and breaks ddb on systems that don't have any hardware text mode and don't need the i386 set-mode/reset-on-exit model. The least it can do is start with mouse support on systems where almost all of the supported systems, since we are