From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 01:18:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6BF1065674 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from warped.bluecherry.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:440:eeee:fffb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B70D8FC0A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (unknown [74.193.182.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by warped.bluecherry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DED787F831C; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:18:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAL1IUHu006406; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:18:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:18:30 -0600 (CST) From: Wes Morgan To: Rudy In-Reply-To: <492603B2.4060709@MonkeyBrains.NET> Message-ID: References: <20081109174303.GA5146@ourbrains.org> <20081109184349.GG51239@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4920D879.3070806@jrv.org> <20081117050441.GA16855@ourbrains.org> <20081118175210.GA3753@hyperion.scode.org> <20081119001742.GA21835@ourbrains.org> <49235D86.4050106@modulus.org> <86bpwcp1d8.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4923D460.5020900@kkip.pl> <4923E977.8030107@kkip.pl> <492603B2.4060709@MonkeyBrains.NET> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, martinko Subject: Re: (actually ZFS) Re: Will XFS be adopted X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:18:35 -0000 On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Rudy wrote: > martinko wrote: >> Bartosz Stec wrote: >>>> >>> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box >>> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's stable. >>> Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;) >>> >> >> How did it crash ? Just the system went down or did you lose any data ? > > Read my previous email on tuning your system so ZFS doesn't crash. > >> I'm planning to build new home server and put all my valuable data on ZFS >> but after reading all the mailing lists I'm not so sure about it. :( > > I've been using it on a shared machine with hundreds of customers for over 8 > months. It has worked flawlessly. People who complain about the crashes > often have not searched the net for: "freebsd zfs tuning". > > Speaking of losing data on a ZFS system, I haven't yet (knock on wood) had a > disk failure. Anyone have a disk failure occur and have an easy/hard time > replacing the bad disk? I had a Samsung drive fail on me a few months back. Samsung does not do "advance shipment" like Seagate or WD. I had to run a raidz one drive short for about a week. The replacement was as simple as you'd expect - "zpool replace ..." Note, I will not be purchasing any more Samsung drives :)