From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 16:35:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2A8CAC2D3 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B651603 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1484238751; bh=OvxjlmDcW7/zu56eDJx81SFoPOo047g3D9AavLM4HLk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=K+PFvLxx6aN4Gknfspb+xj+ZyaBG515wXmyI8g7IkGmvchsgmttrzksG8vcBbjhwlEY2mjuekYuV0yPo8ttFa1taz+BIJQfAM6XnNyT7ErWn4L1m7HIk0sGx3bH0RbZa6LznoMDMsu3vT43E+J/3dT81HnTRJ19vsJTpGe3OPwuRzUMG5sBaJ5x7c+kYBOBZVgeDlkP33RaVQQXs0zhTt3RuoTWvLHGoc/bNELGJTdovqDhwClhxowMp5i2iUTWPr9dskAhTPhN3u9pHSUKkL2gb6c/lcmk5nsSDpBaQhZKJROECTlsN656nm9IFVvwp4F9cJgpeJqlgfdTtTkMUKQ== Received: from [212.82.98.58] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:32:31 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.73] by tm11.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:32:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 15:45:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 650265.90672.bm@smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _ofxdEUVM1nLTeeWFWKLHKvY1nYkmcZUr4zrsNKaUGf6Pvg GIMSe9Jdy2sE53a1MR53oAhTRqnhQKfzX1_gp9RPLsvTRWc4cHt4rM4957OI 1Afn3xcUILJK22gqXAs5sDkyGEYBtx45NMzwU2JyNSFKyBbghqJMEVNmdbKa UkYhqsslVOR03uo2bcVBCwFXchzdXn8p77yiEq15PDr.kVmIEmV7OCEsA.T9 ji20QqZ6qoaXxj1wiG6Lw3E3NrgkGQyGpZ26xdce4dqkAyYV67uq4Ah3X8Bw tnu0CeW.V3IujKopiOBw.Ma478MyTj0znGLIe5Z5IajpGBT.5gj_ZfdfYoFr JX1Dbi91jZnJ79jgTHmJEbOxFYiW6sENYhpCdRvkTD3ilsQqvQTLIaFZJA3U JKx1F77pA2ucwU.5ujD98zA1VG4DmNQodmXmSfeVihuYbWccz.O5tPc0mjxH LgL0HwxriNfCdW3NXDbqEbQv60jczsChjhHw5Qz5jU2geiXyGbJIxxMKON5P S9fzsyrJNbXWQ99qasPtObLMcPw1pQszsDMzPOsLhvpBCY6J5nSXiDEtFJb3 YtAxVNcr1f63iqfylyYbfCJ9VBQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-ID: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:23 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply >to mailing list". > >Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. Evolution OTOH invokes mailing list replies by "Reply to all". MUAs invoking mailing list replies by "Reply to all" only reply to the mailing list, but Claws does reply to the mailing list, as well as CC'ing to Reply-To: Polytropon if I use Claws-Mail's "Reply" (invoking a mailing list reply) or "Reply to Mailing list" option. The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the mailing list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman lists sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon from the CC address bar. Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add the mailing list address manually. Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the behaviour of different MUAs. Regards, Ralf