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It was >claimed that John's messages were abusive and in violation of the FreeBSD >"Code of Conduct". It is unclear to me whether this was in regard to pots >to the mailing lists or included private responses to the mail list >discussions. > >Core reviewed the messages and agreed that they were unacceptable. John >disagreed and declined to retract his statements, so Core voted to withdra= w >his commit bit. > >The public details are available in the mail archives. > >John did state that he would continue to support synth. I can't say if he >has continued to make contributions. In any case, only poudriere is >available for maintaining ports in HEAD and I, for one, feel that it is >simply unacceptable as it make FreeBSD unusable for those of us with only >"small" systems where the weight poudriere simply can't be justified. (I >have no system with other than SATA disk drives and, for my current needs, >1 TB of SATA on my development system and .5TB on my production system is >adequate. Both systems are physically constrained in expansion capability, >though otherwise easily meet my requirements. > >As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not >resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move fro= m >FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this i= s >not what happens. I could not agree more. If this matter is not resolved before FBSD 12 is released, I will have to start looking for a replacement for FBSD. --=20 Carmel