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From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
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Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>,
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Subject: Re: Overly restrictive checks in the make process
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On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:20:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 20 July 2007, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 04:07:49PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > > Even better would be for make to realize that it's only doing the
> > > > fetching, and do it anyway.
> > >
> > > That still doesn't help with the problem of a user who starts a 10MB
> > > download that won't work on his architecture or OS release.  The code
> > > is all the same.  This is the aggravation we are trying to prevent.
> > 
> > That still doesn't address the concern or improve the system downtime 
> > that a pkg_delete, make install allows. If you can't run something, you 
> > don't have any downtime but to have to pkg_delete before you start the 
> > tarball fetch can be really long on some ports.
> 
> It's certainly a tradeoff.  Either way you do it, there are practical
> scenarios where a user is inconvenienced.
> 
> Perhaps an environmental override is the best route.  NO_IGNORE=yes
> or something similar?

Yes, use the NO_IGNORE variable (which just passed its tenth birthday)
to override IGNORE checks you disagree with.

Kris