From nobody Mon Jun 7 20:35:20 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88823160FF29 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FzQ9Q3QjVz4Xhw; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (unknown [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:3a4d::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 465AA606; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 173AD759D4; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? Message-ID: <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard wrote: > > > Baptiste Daroussin wrote on > > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : > > > >> What has happended: > >> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly with redirection > >> and so on. We patched the new archiver to produce the same file names has > >> pipermail > >> > >> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand edition in the past, > >> we we decided to move to plan B which is what is happening now. > >> > >> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the migration date under > >> the pipermail directory and have the new archives created in the archives > >> directory. > >> > >> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The new archives > >> receives in their index a new link to point people to the pipermails archive if > >> looking for older archives. > >> > >> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) during a window, > >> of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow traffic aka the one which didn't > >> received any email since the migration ended up with an empty "archives" > >> directory (aka a 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has > >> been installed there. > >> > >> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been transformed as > >> readonly, this will be done in the next couple of days > > > > It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" > > month, such as, (at the time I write this): > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.html > > > > does not show at least (Date view specific example): > > > > • Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folders ] > > • Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from mailman's time ] > > > > when there are prior months available in > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: > > > > • Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from mailman's time ] > > > > when no prior months are available there. > > > > Looks like there are missing months. > > Using freebsd-hackers as an example: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html > shows the oldest month being "May 2021". > > But . . . > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ > shows the most recent month being "September 2020". > > So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. > > Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html > shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date.html > shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". > > So there are about 2 more half-months missing. > > Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, > some not. This missing month are being populated right now Best regards, Bapt