From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 08:52:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14DB1065677; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5B98FC0C; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 136CE5620B; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:52:40 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Damien Fleuriot Message-ID: <20120615085240.GA11343@lonesome.com> References: <4FD9A0E2.9010101@my.gd> <20120614144128.GB26121@lonesome.com> <96D1E708-FBBE-4E7F-B70A-4AA48EFD3268@my.gd> <4FDAEF5E.7090305@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FDAEF5E.7090305@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:11:40 +0000 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:52:40 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:16:30AM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I'm thinking we might jump straight from 8.x to 10 when the time comes, > I'm really looking forward to Gleb's work on CARP and PF ;) I don't know why you might think one .0 release would be more mature than another .0 release. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. > There are not many boxes I could try 9.0 on, because they're in > production with pfsync to conserve client sessions and I'm loath to > take risks with most of our firewalls. This is where having one or more systems for development is key. Installations like yours are in a far better situation to test FreeBSD under realistic loads than are all but a few of the FreeBSD developers. I would urge testing long before the leadup to a .0 release, not afterwards. Apologies if I'm just repeating myself here, but FreeBSD does not have a dedicated QA department. We are reliant on our users to test in real- world conditions. mcl