From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 14:30:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1B337B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE6543F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 6DC3B530E; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:30:19 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Paul Richards References: <20030501182820.GA53641@madman.celabo.org> <20030503201409.GA41554@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030505175428.GA19275@madman.celabo.org> <20030506170919.GD36798@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030506175557.GE79167@madman.celabo.org> <20030508161223.GL1869@survey.codeburst.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:30:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030508161223.GL1869@survey.codeburst.net> (Paul Richards's message of "Thu, 8 May 2003 17:12:24 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" cc: David O'Brien cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: `Hiding' libc symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:30:22 -0000 Paul Richards writes: > Any C code that isn't written according to the standard that defines > C is broken. That includes most of the FreeBSD source tree. > There's just no argument to be made that FreeBSD should be hacked > to support C code that is written by programmers who haven't bothered > to learn the rules of C properly. > [...] > My opinion is that FreeBSD should cater to the people who know their > stuff and let the crap programmers out their be shown the bugs that > exist in their code when they try to use it on FreeBSD. Now I know why people accuse us of elitism... Let's please not favor pedantry over robustness. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org