From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Aug 3 20:54:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from alexandria.murdoch.edu.au (alexandria.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4F14DB2 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Received: from guru.wow.aust.com (regmac23.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.182]) by alexandria.murdoch.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA56176; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:53:50 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Message-ID: <37A7B94F.FFBE9384@guru.wow.aust.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 11:54:06 +0800 From: Jarvis Cochrane Reply-To: jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com Organization: Murdoch University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Hoskins Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Selfstyled arrogance? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Hoskins wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > > > these interfaces, resulting in software that can't be run on anything but > > a Linux system, or a system that emulates the god-awful Linus /proc mess. > > Which is, essentially, my point... We should emulate Linux where good, > BSD-sense indicates... but we should not necessarily choose to implement > stupid/broken junk. ;) Agreed. I tend to the opinion that the whole point of the linux emulation is to allow FBSD to tap into the wealth of desktop/office software that's available for linux, making FBSD a more attractive desktop platform. People want to run, say, StarOffice - most don't particularly care whether it runs under Linux or FBSD or Solaris or whatever. While I'm sure that there are exceptions, I can't see that there is much call for 'office' software to be mucking about in /proc. And _besides_, there's stuff like... urm... libgtop which aims to provide a platform independent way of getting at process and memory data. Perhaps we would be better served by ensuring that FBSD has a really good implementation of such a library, and asking people to write to _that_. Too idealistic, perhaps, Jarvis -- Jarvis Cochrane, IT Support Office of Student Administration | jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com Murdoch University | cochrane@central.murdoch.edu.au Western Australia | [61|0] 8 9360 6128 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message