From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 29 14:07:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E93F1065672; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE728FC1D; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58F4225D385D; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62CF9BD809E; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wi1GSx9oWhfw; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orange-en1.sbone.de (orange-en1.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31:cabc:c8ff:fecf:e8e3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74AC7BD809C; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:15 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4EFC1260.1060503@luddite.com.au> To: Mark Blackman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Peter J. Cherny" Subject: Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:07:21 -0000 On 29. Dec 2011, at 12:34 , Mark Blackman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: >> I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to = a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. >>=20 >> Other than following arcane recipes, >> the only way to create a system with ZFS root is by using Martin = Matu?ka's excellent mfsboot images. >>=20 >> Where are the plans for making this functionality mainstream ? >=20 > What's stopping this? lack of effort/time or consensus? > I know it's a volunteer project and there's lots of resource = constraints, > but ZFS on root seems like such a no-brainer that I can only assume = it's > quite hard or nobody has quite decided what it should look like. Not sure if it's a no-brianer but I seem to remember that there had been patches prepared for bsdinstall which were never finished/committed. I'll let that person follow-up himself on the state to where he got. /bz --=20 Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! Stop bit received. Insert coin for new address family.=