From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 02:58:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4724ABF6 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CB62170D for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:58:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=bNZdmx8pCsJXvESmTpWjdpTjc7fqlx6eRhlyLZml/NY=; b=LYeiSNoofaH8y4jFfo1LFo9Ho/BS743XuzUpVi6UEWeMR8+fuv9GX4K9A9EFgdJeyJgtOKtcYfGDWNvzSZojIGwr0XDDT3keIjpyAxUrN6PO7PtonUKzjU4KBoEz/2eZc79QYYK+HUKXuf0CJROtmD7EycPx3wQlcV/8n9TvrCw=; Received: from bb220-255-199-175.singnet.com.sg ([220.255.199.175]:19891 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WacXK-002JLV-Kd; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:58:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:58:41 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthew Pherigo Subject: Re: Can people get banned from this mailing list? Message-ID: <20140417105841.63adc10c@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <724F48B2-8E0D-43FF-9143-57899C086A67@gmail.com> References: <20140416120448.271fb7aa@X220.alogt.com> <724F48B2-8E0D-43FF-9143-57899C086A67@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:58:53 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:40:08 -0500 Matthew Pherigo wrote: > >> On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Erich Dollansky > >> wrote: > > > > there is currently more spam than trolling on this list. There > > would be a way to stop spam, but trolling? The troll will get a new > > e-mail address and off he goes again. > > Firstly, I have to disagree with you; I'd say that spam is MUCH > harder to block than trolling. Spam are usually going to come from a just have only registered users on all lists as a first step. It will not stop then spam coming from harvesters of e-mail addresses here and sending their spam out from hacked Windows machine. > As to the trolls ability to change email addresses, that's why you > use shadowbanning. But, to be honest, I'm not even sure that this It is also a problem that people here are not allowed to deal with trolls without having the risk of being banned. > Maybe it doesn't even matter, but it's just weird having this high > quality, intelligent mailing list, and then out of all that, having > this one guy who uses the mailing list like the way that my grandma > uses her email contacts. > Life is life. Erich