From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 00:59:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A328A2; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F4A4231E; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r980wsc6052995; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 04:58:54 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 04:58:54 +0400 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: rcs is gone? In-Reply-To: <52534C04.60909@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <29D748F4-5E38-4587-BC7F-0141234C2F62@orthanc.ca> <6CEFF9B8-A62A-4616-A0FF-BDDDE1027A7E@FreeBSD.org> <132C8A43-E822-49C3-A1EA-493A40449AD4@orthanc.ca> <52534C04.60909@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 04:58:54 +0400 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:59:04 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > Or do you really only run the base OS and no other software on your > > > systems, without any of your own code or any customisation? > > We install from the base release ISO images burned on DVDs. > > > > We are physically air-gapped from the internet, none of the "end users" of > > the system have access to USB ports, and there are no electronic devices > > allowed into the development shop. > > > > We have a scheme for bringing in software from /usr/ports, but it is > > painful. And those ports can't necessarily walk on to all the systems in > > the shop. (I don't make the rules. Suffice to say the company is very > > paranoid about their code getting out into the wild.) > > > > Having RCS in the base system is very useful. We use it to track changes to > > bits of /etc on the machines where we don't do wholesale customizations. > > (Those ones get git, but they also get an install of /usr/ports with a fully > > populated /usr/ports/distfiles.) > > > > So if nuking RCS is a case of "I don't use it," ... we do. > > +1 Moreover, IIRC, some key files in FreeBSD own cluster had been archived by RCS... -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------