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TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.163.184.199:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.163.184.199:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.184.199:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.184.199:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:14:14 -0000 On 2021-Mar-10, at 16:16, Klaus K=C3=BCchemann wrote: >=20 >> Am 10.03.2021 um 23:28 schrieb Mark Millard via freebsd-arm = : >>=20 >> =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 >> .. >> (temporarily where = https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot/ =E2=80=A6 >=20 > here too ;-) >=20 > W A R N I N G=20 >=20 > new CRAPWARE-files from rpi-org-upstream dated Wed, / 10. march 2021/ = 02:36 >=20 > will kill ' powerd' ( at least on my machine ) : > =E2=80=94 =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. > Starting powerd. > powerd: no cpufreq(4) support -- aborting: No such file or directory > /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start 0.88, 0.38, 0.15 up 0+00:00:59 = 19:38:39 > ... > -- >=20 > files no further tested because quickly removed from my beautiful = system :-) Ha Ha=20 I will remind of what the RPi* folks report about using such github materials (in an raspiOS or raspiOS64 context, usually via rpi-update use): = https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/raspbian/applications/rpi-update= .md says . . . QUOTE WARNING: Pre-release versions of software are not guaranteed to work. = You should not use rpi-update on any system unless recommended to do so = by a Raspberry Pi engineer. It may leave your system unreliable or even = completely broken. It should not be used as part of any regular update = process. . . . rpi-update will download the latest pre-release version of the linux = kernel, its matching modules, device tree files, along with the latest = versions of the VideoCore firmware. It will then install these files to = relevant locations on the SD card, overwriting any previous versions.=20 All the source data used by rpi-update comes from the GitHub repo = https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware. This repository simply contains = a subset of the data from the official firmware repository, as not all = the data from that repo is required. END QUOTE https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update says: QUOTE This is only intended for use with Raspbian. If you are using a = different distribution then check with the maintainers if using = rpi-update is safe. If the distribution ships a custom kernel (e.g. BerryBoot), then it = almost certainly is not safe. . . . Even on Raspbian you should only use this with a good reason. This gets you the latest bleeding edge kernel/firmware. There is always = the possibility of regressions. Bug fixes and improvements will eventually make their way into new = Raspbian releases and apt-get when they are considered sufficiently well = tested. A good reason for using this would be if you like to help with the = testing effort, and are happy to risk breakages and submit bug reports. = These testers are welcome. . . . Backing up before updating is always advisable. END QUOTE FreeBSD's kernel is an example of a "custom kernel", even more so because they are likely presuming linux. Releases showing up in "apt-get" are only from some of the tagged commits, no others. The RPi*'s release and pre-release criteria do not involve FreeBSD compatibility in any direct way. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)