From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 06:00:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB3937B404 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E8843F93 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6GCxtj03050; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:59:56 -0300 Message-ID: <3F154C4A.5080807@tcoip.com.br> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:59:54 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030702 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jason andrade References: <20030712173332.GB14686@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <3F14147F.2010706@jonny.eng.br> <20030715203333.GA25714@roma.coe.ufrj.br> <20030715215327.GB23859@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org cc: Ken Smith Subject: Re: Mirror Site Requirements... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:00:23 -0000 jason andrade wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ken Smith wrote: > > >>I'm also very uncomfortable with "retroactively" establishing new rules. >>I don't mind applying the new rules "strictly" to new Mirror Site offers >>and "less-strictly" to existing Mirror Sites if that seems fair. You have >>all been contributing to the FreeBSD Project and I don't want it to ever >>seem like anyone is being ungrateful for that. > > > i can see that it might be uncomfortable and much as i hate the thought of > not being compliant and having to bring our mirror up to compliance to > meet retrospective requirements - i think it is a worthwhile thing for the > freebsd group/mirror project as a whole. I was pipe in on this before, but decided to leave it alone. But since someone else *has* piped in, let me be on record agreeing with the sentiments above expressed. I'd regret not being able to keep with mirror compliance requirements, but I think it is worthwhile for the project as a whole, for pretty much the same reasons. > it is *much* better for mirrors to maintain a base level of consistency as > our research into mirror use here has shown that users are more likely to > use mirrors when they have stability in the process. any loss of stability > almost certainly leads to the majority defaulting back to their perceived > master site: ftp.freebsd.org and it takes a while for them to switch back > again (e.g build trust in the process again). > > so to address the point - if rules come about they are being developed in > consultation with the community and should be consistently applied to all > mirrors. OTOH, we'd better do a consultation to find out how many mirrors won't be able to keep up with the standards we set upon, because if lose too many mirrors, maybe it's better to rethink the standards. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca VIVO Centro Oeste Norte Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net There once was a lady named Myrtle Who had an affair with a turtle. She had crabs, so they say, In a year and a day Which proved that that turtle was fertile.