From owner-freebsd-bugs Thu Jun 1 7:55:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE1F37BA2F for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA24425 (sender ); Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:55:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:55:44 +0200 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/18900: patch to add colorizing feature to /bin/ls Message-ID: <20000601165544.A24155@matrix.42.org> X-Current-Backlog: 399 messages References: <20000531095153.A80830@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <200005311200.IAA29719@lakes.dignus.com> <20000531140859.A44791@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000601142524.A19841@matrix.42.org> <20000601161114.A18501@curry.mchp.siemens.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000601161114.A18501@curry.mchp.siemens.de>; from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de on Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 04:11:14PM +0200 I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 04:11:14PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Thu, 01-Jun-2000 at 14:25:24 +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > > The problem is to draw the line. Surely we will nevae have netscape in > > base. But perl we do. I (and many others) think that colorized ls is > > gimmicky enough to have no place in the base system. Color-ls gains you > > no new information. > > Does less do this compared to more? > Or /usr/src/games (I know, they can be disabled). less is a port, for this exact reason. > No, there won't be gained new information. It never was the goal of > a colorised ls to gain new information. Ok. So make it a port :) [...] > > Make it a port, so everybody can be happy. Everybody I know who installs > It _is_ already a port. However, the ports ls distfile does not have the same > features as /bin/ls has. So update the port an be done with it. > So everytime someone changes /bin/ls the port would > have to be sync'ed again (which costs developers/commiters time). And now everyone who canges ls has to wantch out not to break your precious color patch. > > a FreeBSD system installs his favourite ports first. For me it's zsh, > > screen, less and vim. If for you this includes colorls so go ahead and > > add that port on a new install, but please don't influct this on the > > rest of us. > Again: It is an option (-G) that you don't have to use. I assume there are > many programs in the base systems with options you don't use (and maybe > even don't know about). You don't scream about them because they are already > there. And again: There are many programs I use every day, starting with my shell (zsh). But I still don't go running around and claim it should be imported in base, just because I can't live without it. CU, Sec -- CUSTOMER: "I'm running Windows '95." > TECH: "Yes." CUSTOMER: "My computer isn't working now." > TECH: "Yes, you already said that." -- (found in comp.os.linux.misc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message