From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:09:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75A816A420 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: from abbe.salford.ac.uk (abbe.salford.ac.uk [146.87.0.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68B5413C4A3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 93918 invoked by uid 98); 23 Oct 2007 22:09:30 +0100 Received: from 146.87.255.121 by abbe.salford.ac.uk (envelope-from , uid 401) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.90/3838. spamassassin: 3.1.8. Clear:RC:1(146.87.255.121):. Processed in 0.050573 secs); 23 Oct 2007 21:09:30 -0000 Received: from rust.salford.ac.uk (HELO rust.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.121) by abbe.salford.ac.uk (qpsmtpd/0.3x.614) with SMTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:09:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 59663 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Oct 2007 21:09:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2007 21:09:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:09:28 +0100 (BST) From: "Mark Powell" To: Dmitry Marakasov In-Reply-To: <20071003003329.GA78359@hades.panopticon> Message-ID: <20071023214838.P57575@rust.salford.ac.uk> References: <20071002164246.GA986@hades.panopticon> <20071003003329.GA78359@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need motherboard for home fileserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:09:44 -0000 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > * Dmitry Marakasov (amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) wrote: > > Thanks for you replies so far. Now after some digging I understand a bit > what I actually need. Probably best combination for cheap low power ZFS server at moment: Gigabyte GA-G33-DSR4 On board VGA Intel GMA 3100 Integrated ALC889A 8-Channel High Definition audio All 8 on-board SATA supported by FreeBSD 7 6xSATA on ICH9 2xSATA on Gigabyte SATA Controller which is really the well supported JMB363 But On-board Realtek GbE, which is a piece of crap, so buy an Intel 1000PT PCI-E gig adapter Couple that with the cheapest, effective, Core2Duo: Intel CPU Pentium DualCore E2140 They are similar price to the cheapest AMD and are really just a Core2Duo with just 1MB cache and offical 800MHz FSB. However, they are the same silicon as C2D. As such these run easily at ~3GHz with 350-400MHz FSB all with no voltage increases, if you're into such things. It's a shame AMD have fallen behind Intel. Corporate crime does pay it seems :( > Well, I hoped to get a SocketAM2 board for AthlonX2, as it is 30-40% > cheaper than Core2Duo with similar performance, but most of AM2 > motherboards use nForce chipset, which is unsupported by CURRENT. > The only solution I've found is M2N32-SLI (thanks Craig), but I'll > need to buy video card and Intel Gbit NIC. > > Though Core 2 Duo CPUs are more expensive, See above. Possibly not as low power as an AMD solution, but a lot more for your money, me thinks. > choice of motherboards is much wider, and they are generally cheaper > than M2N32-SLI, so price of AMD/Intel platforms is nearly equal. I've > found some MB's with integrated video and Intel ethernet: ASUS P5B-VM > DO, Intel DG33BUC, Intel DG33FBC. I think I'll buy one of those, but > just to be sure, are those statements right: - Marvell/NVidia NICs suck, > and I am right that I definitely need Intel. > (what about RealTec, btw?) Only Intel NICs. All those others you mention just don't work properly. Intel will save you headaches. > - ICH8DO should work as well as ICH8 and G33 should work as well as G965 > (didn't find menton of ICH8DO in src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c) > - ADI*/Realtec(ALC*)/Sigmatel(STAC*) HDA CODECs provide more or less > equal sound quality. And it can be considered `good' to > non-audiophiles. Cheers. -- Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Information Services Division, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 4837 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key