From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 03:34:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE41065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE248FC1E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2A3YqLF059016; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Al Plant Message-ID: <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:11:54PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200. > >It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few > >minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live > >non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't > >KVM over to my DNS server. > > > >Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be > >looking for to replace the 8200. > > > >thanks for any suggestions. > > > Aloha Gary, > > Dell sudden death. In my experience means a hardware failure. > > EG: Two weeks ago I consulted for a friend in IT on a dead Dell server > with the removable hard drives. It turned out to be a faulty back plate > where the HD's fitted in so all 4 were not working. Dell had to send a > replacement backplate to replace the bad one. > > If you can find anyone on a list with one of your type maybe they can > help you. Dell doesnt always use the same hardware in the same model > computer btw. > > Check all the cables and power supply connections and re-seat everything > in the box. Something may have walked out of the board. Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a long day... . ............} Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour before everything is back. still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start looking for a new desktop. i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as a minimum.]] suggestions? gary ps:: if anyboy in the seattle area can come by and fix my KVM wiring, i can pay for your gasoline, but that's about it... . > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php