From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 13:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215E137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7415B43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id MUA74016; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:59:33 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id C137A5D04; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Michael Collette In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Collette of "Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:53:10 PDT." <200306161253.10715.metrol@metrol.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:59:32 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030616205932.C137A5D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: 5.1 - should I? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:59:35 -0000 > From: Michael Collette > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:53:10 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > As you've probably seen from my previous posts, I'm having a heck of a time > getting 4-STABLE to play properly on this Thinkpad R40. My #1 problem has to > do with the power management. After running through a variety of kind > suggestions I'm still no further along in returning this box to it's owner. > > I'm a little leary about putting 5 on there, as it'll be my first install of > this version. I wouldn't mind so much playing around with it on a box that I > would have in front of me, but this is going to a user that has no intention > of learning Unix. That's what admins and geeks are for :) Having not used > I don't know how well I'll be able to support this user right away. > > 4-STABLE does not appear to be a solution for me on here. Even so much as > having the screen blank causes this box to become unresponsive. I'm heavily > leaning towards the opinion that what I've got here is a problem with how > FreeBSD deals with that ATI Radeon 7500 card. > > At this time there is no critical data on this laptop. Lot of time compilin > apps, but nothing I can't do over. Right now is the best time to figure out > which way to take this, as the user hasn't had a chance to work with it at > all. > > Sorry about the rambling here. I'm on the fence as to which way to take thi > installation and I was rather hoping for a little push one way or the other. > Some of the questions I have running through my mind... > > 5-CURRENT > > 1. Will it properly talk with this ATI card? No better than 4.8, although I have not seen your problem with this chip. The vtys never fail on my system. Only the graphics port has a problem. The system can't deal with the display powering on while running 1400x1050. Do you know what the R40 screen runs at in vty? If it's 1400x1050, that would explain a lot! > 2. Will it resolve my power management issues? Not sure what power management issues you have, so I can't say much. APM is about the same. ACPI has a poor track record on ThinkPads, but I have reports that it is working on some models. The R40 is very new, so, maybe. I do know that I can't put my units to sleep when they are on AC power. I have to unplug the AC and then hit suspend. I THINK that is the only problem I've seen. > 3. Built in wireless working? Maybe. If you have the Cisco card, it will work. I belive that the Intel card uses a Symbol chip and is not yet supported. Maybe someone can confirm this. (My T30 uses a Prism 2.5 chip.) > 4. Anyone out there with a similar setup on 5? Yes, but running on T30 and 600E systems. I can send you the config, XF86Config, device.hints, and loader.conf files.