From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 10 02:09:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BA434464D for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@anatoli.ws) Received: from out-mx.anatoli.ws (out-mx.anatoli.ws [177.54.157.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "out-mx.anatoli.ws", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49hVms1z6jz4LmT for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@anatoli.ws) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by out-mx.oprbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 933AB1E00BCA; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:09:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=anatoli.ws; s=vnptcm0lqn; t=1591754986; bh=JGewCzTNbR9Kcso4TOKpnoehKYSrJE8zCYAS1ouq5Jw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=MoTkn04K9RCxteJAiKPpV5/RkoduyCNeEEUqPDpQ4HJbN5oiITCE8+EANBZ+Y3S4k NrbCJqe8bJ3AltKiVErIXe3hMGWkkD4zyPuzh4j4ypjVtJ6xKcWyGAdBYnFKl15De+ snhqipqBs25rN6FP+BCJVmw9cDZ6WlJIS9fgdmdtkugLMfOIp42RR5aEoV64qC5K84 MmOwEXr7GN4xKmZ9iLYGYohGXZkD4YwVjLZGkn57cBGCY2P9Ks8HvFtf8Nm0HzeSeP XZJTPaLeD7WCs5xg2++npPvqGU2x6AXL1XQ48kXZ2VI39sHJtBMnm8Lov53BxItVps CJ9ly6wsMObtQ== Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> From: Anatoli Message-ID: <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 23:09:42 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hVms1z6jz4LmT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:262287, ipnet:177.54.156.0/22, country:BR]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:09:49 -0000 > Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. That is roughly equivalent to > the MESOZOIC period in computer years. That’s when the allegations were made and released publicly, over events that supposedly occurred 20 years ago. An interesting development happened 10 *months* ago, when the FBI was requested to release all the information (via a FOIA request) about its involvement with OpenBSD (spoiler: no backdoors, but other entertaining details). The [7] link provides the details. On 9/6/20 13:01, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:04:50 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: > >> [1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/openbsd-code-audit-uncovers-bugs-but-no-evidence-of-backdoor/ >> [2]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2 >> [3]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129296046123471 >> [4]: https://www.csoonline.com/article/2136901/an-fbi-backdoor-in-openbsd-.html >> [5]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129237675106730&w=2 >> [6]: https://www.itworld.com/article/2744922/openbsd-fbi-allegations-denied-by-named-participants.html >> [7]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20489904 >> [8]: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/12/did_the_fbi_pla.html > > Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. That is roughly equivalent to > the MESOZOIC period in computer years. >