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Date:      Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:21:50 -0400
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        <hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
Message-ID:  <20120705132150.19f456b1@bhuda.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <2336980A-5AAB-4D45-8177-71609A7B31F7@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:57:09 +0100
Jonathan Anderson <jonathan.robert.anderson@gmail.com> wrote:
> They do, and it's actually very useful in two cases:
> 1. new users =E2=80=94 "my friend told me to try out latex, but when I ty=
pe 'latex' nothing happens! oh wait, that's how I make it work"
> 2. confusingly-named packages. on FreeBSD:
>=20
> [nick ~]$ latex
> zsh: command not found: latex
> [nick ~]$ pkg search latex | awk '{print $1}'
> latex-chapterfolder-2.0.20051124

[long list elided]

> Compare to bash on Ubuntu:
>=20
> [jra40@kent ~]$ latex
> The program 'latex' is currently not installed.  You can install it by ty=
ping:
> sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-base

Nobody has argued that making the ports collection easier to search
would be a bad idea. I get:

bhuda% portsearch -f 'bin/latex$'
Port:	latex2e-2003.12_1
Info:	TeX macro package
Path:	/usr/ports/print/latex
Files:	bin/latex

Port:	teTeX-base-3.0_20
Info:	Thomas Esser's distribution of TeX & friends (binaries)
Path:	/usr/ports/print/teTeX-base
Files:	bin/latex

2 ports, 2 files
bhuda%=20

Hmm. Seems like we have two different versions of latex in the ports
- and probably packages - tree.

In fact, if you want this functionality in the base, providing the
search functionality as an external tool is a crucial step. I'd be
surprised if anybody object to that being added to base.

> The command line shouldn't have to be a scary place for new users.

Nor should it be an annoying place for old users. New users are
important. But old users are the ones who make contributions.

	   <mike
--=20
Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>		http://www.mired.org/
Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information.

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