From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 05:13:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DD616BBF5; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 05:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F2943D4C; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 05:12:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k815CQxm058200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:12:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:12:17 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <20060901011217.09fadd71.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20060831213435.GA63400@rambler-co.ru> References: <200608290920.k7T9KmV9067843@repoman.freebsd.org> <200608310848.30549.jhb@freebsd.org> <200608311721.14081.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060831213435.GA63400@rambler-co.ru> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, gad@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:13:18 -0000 On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:34:35 +0400 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:21:13PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400 > > > > > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true > > > >> > default config files -- they are either used if there's no > > > >> > corresponding version under /etc, or most likely sourced > > > >> > to provide defaults. To be moved to /etc/defaults, a file > > > >> > should gain the same property. > > > >> > > > >> While this comment is blatently obvious: /etc/examples > > > > > > > >This is already spelled /usr/share/examples/etc in FreeBSD. > > > > > > Actually, as it stands right now that is not quite the same > > > thing. Right now /usr/share/examples/etc holds *exact copies* > > > of the files we install in /etc, for the reasons as described > > > in /usr/share/examples/etc/README.examples : > > > > I was thinking of /usr/share/examples/ppp (I thought it had > > been under /usr/share/examples/etc/ppp). Having > > /usr/share/examples/etc in its current form really isn't all > > that useful as for one thing it has rotted a bunch. I think > > instead that we should repurpose it for expanded versions of > > files. The current format of /etc/printcap should be an example > > file for example (it fits with /usr/share/examples/ppp style) > > and I think we shouldn't even have an /etc/printcap installed > > by default. Same with /etc/hosts.allow. > > > /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf is the example to follow. Very true. I'm digging this idea. -- Tom Rhodes