From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Feb 4 13:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21311 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fs.IConNet.NET (fs.IConNet.NET [199.173.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21306 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuck@fs.IConNet.NET) Received: from ncc-ws03. (ncc-ws03.IConNet.NET [199.173.160.198]) by fs.IConNet.NET (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id QAA22743; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by ncc-ws03. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07236; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36BA0774.13496EC3@ics.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:05:06 -0500 (EST) Organization: Icon CMT Corporation From: Chuck Youse To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Subject: Re: ldconfig and libraries Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh, just boot this asshole. On 04-Feb-99 Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > John Polstra wrote: > >> you're the fellow demanding that >> "ldconfig must die" and then looking to the FreeBSD development team >> to make the change (against the loudly expressed wishes of the vast >> majority of our users) and take the heat for it. > > ROTFLMAO. You (collectively) don't have any trouble taking the heat for, > e.g. the lack of SVR4-style rc/init, event though some number of people > want it. > > You're telling me you listen to your users, but when a user (me) tells > you something, you respond with "shut up, we don't want to hear what our > users are telling us." Which is it, are you listening or not? > > Where do you (collectively) make a stand, put your foot down, and say, > it's a bad idea, or redundant, or whatever the case may be and refuse to > do something? > > For the five-plus years I've subscribed to this list I've seen plenty of > evidence that "heat from the vast majority of your users" is rarely a > factor in making a technical decision. > >> OK, I'm not your Dr. Laura. > > Oh, that's really clever. I suppose I should be happy you're not telling > me I don't know how to read a spec or something similar. > > So, since you listen to your users, we'll be seeing SVR4-style rc/init > in 3.1, right? > > -- > > Kaleb > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message Chuck Youse, chuck@iconnet.net Icon CMT Network Operations Center, 1st Shift Supervisor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message