From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jun 18 16:25: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9C414E39; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA13988; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:54:45 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id IAA09530; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:54:44 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:54:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Thomas Good Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Beware of UnixWare 7 Message-ID: <19990619085444.O2863@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990618181324.A2863@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Thomas Good on Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 07:17:14AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 18 June 1999 at 7:17:14 -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Those of you who were at Usenix may have picked up a free copy of a >> UnixWare 7 CD-ROM from SCO. If so, be careful when installing it. I >> tried installing it on a machine with two other systems installed. It >> failed to install (looped trying to install drivers it didn't need). >> When I rebooted, I found that it had overwritten the Master Boot >> Record (which is silly, since it knew there were two other systems on > > Now that you've recovered I can wax rhetoical (briefly ;-). > I have run UnixWare since day 1 - when Novell bought it from USL. > It had bad kernel code in version 1.1 - panic on every shutdown > when it couldn't flush dirty pages. I used it right from the beginning. The problems I recall were disappearing files and failing NFS config; the latter was crucial for the work I was doing, and the only way I found to fix it was to reinstall NFS. > SCO cleaned that up but everything that used to be free on UW1.1 is > now activated by a licence key and $$$. It's approx $795 to turn on > anything (even netscape)... I thought the licenses were free. I got the main license for free, anyway. > I run 2.1.2 on a production box - at least for now. (Moving > to Slackware soon on this box...) The lamest implementation of > Unix I've ever seen. It looks like you haven't used OpenServer. I think UnixWare is better. > Many conf tasks remain non-trivial as compared to BSD or Linux due > to inexpertise on SCO's end...as the red Sytem Admin Handbook once > stated (Neveth, Snyder et al.) SCO Unix* is `perverse'. This is Open[Server,Deathtrap], not UnixWare. A completely different system. > An example of clumsiness: the sendmail.cf file that comes stock with > 2.1.2 is for OpenServer hence all paths are wrong. And, for > whatever reason SCO didn't see fit to build makemap so making a > mailertable is tougher than it should be...on and on... Right, they have a different mailer which they prefer. But it does look clumsy, agreed. I've tried twice more to install UnixWare. It makes all the right noises, but on reboot it just hangs. I'm giving up now. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message