From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 19 19:37:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5AA15421 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvergall@mail.double-barrel.be) Received: from ns.double-barrel.be (ns.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.18]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA05188; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:36:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ns.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA01128; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:36:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:36:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Eddie Irvine Cc: Keith Woodman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Confusion In-Reply-To: <36F31F59.FD4E3C28@tpgi.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Eddie Irvine wrote: > Keith Woodman wrote: > > > After following the discussion regarding the releases of product. > > I am left , wondering what is considered a sound product to > > install on a machine. The frequency of CD releases leaves me wondering. > > "well what was wrong in the last version they said was the next > > kewlest thing". > > I installed the 3.0 CD as well, and keeping current caused me a lot more > work than I imagined. I tested 3.0 on a spare box and found it still had to many problems so didn't do my production servers. Now I got the 3.1 CD and will install that first on a non production box and test all the bits off code that are required on my production servers out before dyving in and upgrading the 5 production boxes here. I would sugest anyone who has production boxes do this that way so to minimize downtime. Don't be dumb and install a new release because you can test it first. > > Now that the 3.1 CD is shipping, the dust has settled quite a bit. Yes but I would say test it first. > > FreeBSD is permanently a "work in progress". If you are wondering what > CD to buy next, you may be missing out on one of the big strengths > of FreeBSD over, say, Red Hat: The ability to keep your machine in sync > with the latest STABLE code. You can't really do this by buying CD's - > as soon as a CD is released, parts of it are out of date in a few hours or > so. That is what cvs was invented for .. and that I why I switched all my machines to FreeBSD when 2.2.6. was released. However I don't just run cvs on all those machines I have a dedicated box that cvs's all the code and then builds all the code and runs a number off test scripts that test all the code used in the production boxes and then sends me a report if it fails if not I upgrade the production box by mounting it's hd and do a automtic install then I log in to the production box check if any changes are required in /etc and reboot the server. My maximum downtime is 5 minutes per upgrade unless some hardware goes bad but that is not the fault of FreeBSD. > You need to learn about "cvsup" and "make world" and "compiling a > custom kernel". It's worth doing, although a little intimidating to > begin with. No not really it's a one time thing to learn and should take no more then 10 minutes ... and you can automate the process by dumping those commands in a script and have cron do all the work over the weekend or when you are at work for those who have their boxes at home. just do the buildword in the script so that incase off errors you can iterveen before installing with installworld when you get home. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message