From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Mar 9 12:13:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from absinthe.shenton.org (Absinthe.Shenton.Org [209.31.147.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEAB154CF for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:13:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by absinthe.shenton.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18836; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:12:39 -0500 (EST) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: tom@tomqnx.com, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1-STABLE: nrsa0 T4000 doesn't honor "no rewind"? SCSI errs in logs References: X-Emacs: Emacs 20.3, MULE 4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.8.5 - "Nishi-Takaoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 09 Mar 1999 15:12:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: Matthew Jacob's message of "Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:13:37 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: <874snu777t.fsf@absinthe.shenton.org> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > Yes- I added the code that tries to unload the tape if things get screwed > up- but some tapes don't eject. The Travan-TR4's (and probably any QIC) won't eject. > Let's get a sense from y'all- is this a bad idea? Frankly, dump and tar > and other backup programs are fantastically broken if they don't, at each > open, always either explicitly position to a known locatio, or get > position information and use that, or explicitly space to EOD. It seems to > me that if you've lost position information you should try and force the > tape out. I dunno. I recall seeing some amusing comment on the "sa" or "scsi" man page something about "we don't know why it's done this way but we follow the convention that...". Frankly, if the "better" way breaks existing behavier, then it's not a win for the users. There's plenty of braindead hardware out there in the PeeCee world :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message