From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 24 11:22: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9917A37B401 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust02.liwest.at [212.33.55.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A40E43FA3 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:22:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from CM58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h2OJJU20001339912; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:19:32 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Daniela To: Wes Peters , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Lots of kernel core dumps Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:18:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200303212037.46322.dgw@liwest.at> <200303230010.38736.dgw@liwest.at> <200303231120.15652.wes@softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <200303231120.15652.wes@softweyr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200303242018.43648.dgw@liwest.at> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 23 March 2003 20:20, Wes Peters wrote: > On Saturday 22 March 2003 15:10, Daniela wrote: > > > I know, but 5.0-RELEASE was > > > > > > a) A work-in-progress, not a perfect, bug-free release > > > > > > b) A snapshot of 5.0-CURRENT > > > > > > You read the 5.0 Early Adopter's Guide, right? Bugs like this are > > > expected at this stage in the development process, and if you > > > encounter them then you need to either give up on 5.x and go back t= o > > > 4.x-STABLE, or upgrade to 5.0-CURRENT if they are already fixed > > > there. > > > > > > Kris > > > > Yes, I read the Early Adopter's Guide. > > Is there any way to solve this without upgrading to -current? > > I want a stable server, of course, but I still want to help the FreeB= SD > > folks to make 5.0 the best release ever. This requires testing to be > > done. > > Yes it does, but not on a "production" machine. We admire your courage > and willingness to help, but it's not helping as much as you think. ;^) > > The reason for creating the 5.0 release is to make it easy for more > developers and testers to jump onto the 5.x bandwagon by giving them a > known (relatively) good starting point. Quite a number of problems hav= e > been fixed since 5.0-RELEASE; CURRENT is now generally much more stable= , > and nobody is going to spend time updating 5.0 which is essentially an > "early access" release. > > You have to decide for yourself if this machine is too critical to run > CURRENT, in which case it's probably best off running STABLE or the > latest 4.x release branch, or if you want to update it to CURRENT, foll= ow > the CURRENT mailing list, and update again at known stable development > points. It looks like right now is pretty good if you want to jump. > > At any rate, thanks for your tenacity. We really do appreciate the > contributions of everyone. Well, it's just a home server. I don't mind a few crashes, but security i= s=20 important for me. What do you think, should I go back to -stable? FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I want to see it succeeding and I want to= help=20 as much as possible. Daniela To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message