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To: Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net>
Subject: Re: still trouble with IP-Filter in 4.4-prerel 
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In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:38:10 EDT."
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:30:13 -0600
From: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.32.0108091337490.89449-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> Chris BeHanna writes:
: On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote:
: 
: >
: > What are the steps you are following to update your system ?
: >
: > cvsup
: > mergemaster or merge/update /etc from /usr/src/etc
: > make world
: > config -r yourkernel
: > make depend;make;make install
: > reboot
: 
:     Gack.  That's not what UPDATING says.

UPDATING is more likely to produce working updates, although sometimes 
things break.

The above sequence is a disaster waiting to happen.  If make world
fails for some reason, then you can have new /etc files and old
binaries which can cause problems with, for example, PAM.  Also, when
binutils change, it will use the old binutils to build the kernel
(which last time it happened failed to work) and if your kernel fails
to boot for some obscure reason, it is hard to unwind.

Warner

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