From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Tue Dec 5 17:22:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C11E71B18; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from shxd.cx (mail.shxd.cx [64.201.244.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F17D640E9; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from [64.201.244.132] (port=54940 helo=[10.0.0.109]) by shxd.cx with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1eMGvF-000NCk-0P; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:22:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/sponge usr.bin/sponge/tests usr.bin/tee From: Devin Teske X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13G36) In-Reply-To: <20171205162926.9F16C1DD@spqr.komquats.com> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:22:20 -0800 Cc: Hans Petter Selasky , "rgrimes@freebsd.org" , "cem@freebsd.org" , Eitan Adler , src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Message-Id: References: <20171205162926.9F16C1DD@spqr.komquats.com> To: Cy Schubert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:22:22 -0000 > On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Cy Schubert wrote: >=20 > Why not update sed to create the backup file only if the suffix is given t= o -i, like gnu sed does. >=20 I suspect that would break countless scripts that test uname to determine ho= w to use the -i flag of sed. --=20 Devin > --- > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > This old phone only supports top post. Apologies. >=20 > Cy Schubert > or > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > --- > From: Devin Teske > Sent: 05/12/2017 07:35 > To: Hans Petter Selasky > Cc: rgrimes@freebsd.org; cem@freebsd.org; Eitan Adler; src-committers; svn= -src-all@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/sponge usr.bin/spong= e/tests usr.bin/tee >=20 >=20 > > On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:= > >=20 > >> On 12/05/17 13:58, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> Further more, why does freebsd need this in base? > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > I think this is useful. It could replace the "-i " (intermediate) option= for "sed" for example. It avoids creating temporary files when filtering fi= les, right? > >=20 > > --HPS > >=20 >=20 > Wth is wrong with: >=20 > data=3D$( sed -e '...' somefile ) && > echo "$data" > somefile >=20 > or >=20 > set -e > data=3D... > echo "$data" > ... >=20 > or >=20 > exec 3< $( ... ) > EOF > cat > ... <&3 >=20 > or >=20 > (I digress) >=20 > Infinite variations, but the gist is that sponge looks to be trying to hel= p sh(1)/similar when help is unneeded. >=20 > Why buffer data into memory via fork-exec-pipe to sponge when you can buff= er to native namespace without pipe to sponge? >=20 > Am I missing something? Why do we need sponge(1)? > --=20 > Devin >=20