From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 8 18:33:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B5A37B404 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEC543E4A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:33:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7E0881457; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:03:29 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:03:29 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: "f.johan.beisser" , "Gary W. Swearingen" , Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Real UNIX history (was: Congrats to Brett Glass for new BSD history article) Message-ID: <20021009013329.GB1415@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021008145226.K30424-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <3DA36DF9.CD52524F@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA36DF9.CD52524F@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 8 October 2002 at 16:44:57 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > "f.johan.beisser" wrote: >> BSD was always free. the AT&T code for UNIX was not. > > UNIX was free, too. The consent decree from the Greene decision > on the AT&T antitrust case forbit AT&T from making money from > selling software. That didn't make it free. > This was the original "Western Electric" license that UCB got the > UNIX sources under. This is the same license that permitted the > University of Queensland commented source code book to be > distributed. UQ? That was UNSW. http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/foldoc/15/67.htm. You'll note that John got hell for it, though UNIX was still not available commercially. >> yes, there were portions of AT&T code, once those were purged, the >> BSD code no longer fell under the AT&T license, and could be >> distributed freely again. in the meanwhile, the plucky Linux kernel >> jumped out of the woodwork. > > Nice rewrite on history, there... 8-). I think you do better. What part of the statement above do you disagree with? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message