From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 30 6:49:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718F137B401; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2EF43EB2; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 06:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joegw@hal-pc.org) Received: from [206.180.133.17] (HELO lyon) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 31074982; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:49:45 -0600 Message-ID: <00c301c2b012$adcf7770$0300000a@lyon> Reply-To: "Joe Gwozdecki" From: "Joe Gwozdecki" To: "Stephen Hilton" , , Cc: References: <20021229185302.GA291@raggedclown.net><200212292050.GBTKOTK38979@asarian-host.net><20021229214046.GG1181@raggedclown.net><20021230104926.GL215@vectors.cx> <20021230084202.0530d91e.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> Subject: Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:49:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800 > Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone > > who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions > > aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as "Answers to the > > following questions will be used as rules for future user additions:" Or > > something that makes more sense. > > I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that > the "Usernames must match regular expression: " prompt was asking > for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf > file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. > This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user > to make. > > ----------------------snip-------------------------- > desktop># adduser > /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory > Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. > > Check /etc/shells > Check /etc/master.passwd > Check /etc/group > Usernames must match regular expression: > [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: > ----------------------snip-------------------------- > > Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should > probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install > configuration. Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX > one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root > login, and use it!. > > Regards, > > Stephen Hilton > nospam@hiltonbsd.com > When you see a short coming like this, is there not some way to get it put into the software and/or FreeBSD handbook? I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had a couple of more words of explanation added, would eliminate a great deal of confusion. Where do you go with suggestions for changes? Joe Gwozdecki Houston, Texas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message