From nobody Fri Aug 8 11:02:07 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bz1MX1ZCNz63YVT; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid2.gid.co.uk (ns0.gid.co.uk [IPv6:2001:470:94de::240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gid2.gid.co.uk", Issuer "gid2.gid.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bz1MW2ffGz3Hxx; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rb@gid.co.uk designates 2001:470:94de::240 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rb@gid.co.uk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gid.co.uk Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) by gid2.gid.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 578B2NDS039629; Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:02:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([194.32.164.24]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id 578B2HvW082174; Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:02:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.600.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:02:07 +0100 Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.23 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.932]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gid.co.uk,none]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org,freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bz1MW2ffGz3Hxx X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi, > On 8 Aug 2025, at 02:28, void wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:43:28AM +0200, Tomek CEDRO wrote: >> +1 =) >> >> Base and Userland should be clearly separated, as it was, as it is, no >> matter how it will be organized internally (i.e. modular base) :-) > > +1 here also. > > Why not avoid breaking POLA by having a differently-named > binary for pkgbase management? Different switches, too. > -- +1 more. Too many bullet holes in my feet already. -- Bob Bishop rb@gid.co.uk