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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 01ae37564bb63ca378034389a91aa6ce; Mon, 13 Jul 2026 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 10:56:25 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Old /usr/bin/* files (and more) still around on modern main, long updated via pkgbase: looks like having FreeBSD-src installed and doing make check-old and the like are appropriate? To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: freebsd-pkgbase References: <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5.ref@yahoo.com> <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5@yahoo.com> <865x2k390r.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <2826BC9C-63C4-4194-91FC-AA9D4EE290A3@yahoo.com> <86wluz1i3r.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <86wluz1i3r.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.26136 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gzVVp4sWCz3JNQ X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On 7/13/26 00:09, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Mark Millard writes: >> Overall: >> >> It appears that anyone converting from a non-defaul personal build of >> the system to an official, upstream pkgbase distribution may have similar >> issues to what I had and may need to clean out what became extra/old files. > > Overall: you continue to treat the FreeBSD mailing lists as your > personal blog and only half-listen to what actual FreeBSD developers > tell you. > > Anyone converting from a non-default personal build of the system should > use packages built with their personal non-default options. They can > thereafter switch to packages built with other options if they like, but > the initial conversion to pkgbase should be done using packages that > match what is already installed. > > DES If I had managed to predict the end results back in 2026-Jan, I would have instead started with the sequence: ) First reverted my source-based configuration to be one based on just defaults. ) Built, installed, and delete-old'd based on that adjustment ) Then have done the pkgbase conversion. I wanted the default boot context to be official pkgbase materials that do not involve any tailoring of such by me. If I discover an issue and can reproduce it in that context, that is how I report the issue --avoiding any questions about any personal changes being part of the problem. The default boot system upgrades from official pkgbase distribution to official pkgbase distribution, no building by me. After the above I would have then added my extra, tailored kernels and my chroot directory tree(s) with tailored world(s) for use for my related specific activities. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com