From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 10 15:51:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F331065689 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net) Received: from mail.ispro.net (mail.ispro.net [87.251.0.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503DC8FC25 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net) Received: (qmail 66755 invoked by uid 399); 10 Oct 2008 15:51:39 -0000 Received: from perpetual.yok.utu.fi (HELO ?130.232.138.155?) (yurtesen@ispro.net@130.232.138.155) by mail.ispro.net with ESMTPAM; 10 Oct 2008 15:51:39 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 130.232.138.155 Message-ID: <48EF79FE.9010302@ispro.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:51:26 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <200810091411.m99EB0Vo007538@lurza.secnetix.de> <20081010023428.87556dt18ejyzf48@mail.ispro.net> <20081009200641.60d0b236@bhuda.mired.org> <48EF5052.2000707@ispro.net> <20081010144111.GA34609@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081010144111.GA34609@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:03:49 +0000 Cc: Sean Bruno , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Meyer , Oliver Fromme , Shaun Amott Subject: Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:51:22 -0000 I just wanted to say thanks to all the replies to this thread. It has been insightful even though the suggestions I have received were not really answers to what I asked. I dont see any reason why we should continue to argue about if this can be done using ZFS or Hammer or any other filesystem. The fact is that it can be done eventually with something else if one has the will, time and money to put into it. One can even write his own filesystem code for it eh? The original question (which was lost) was if somebody who has technical knowledge and coding skills who can put r1soft into the right track so their software can support FreeBSD. Because r1soft is interested in supporting FreeBSD. Most of you probably know that FreeBSD support in products of commercial companies are scarce already. This is causing reductions in user base and popularity, although I am not saying that the more users are the better or I am not saying that popularity is everything. But you have to be able to combine one issue with another and see what the results might be in the long run. For example, wouldnt it be good for FreeBSD itself if Oracle supported FreeBSD? While I cant make Oracle to support FreeBSD, there is a company out there with a popular and quality product which is interested in supporting FreeBSD in their products. So why not take advantage of the situation? While I didnt think about some details when I sent the first post, some people thought that I would want somebody to code for r1soft for free so they can sell the software. No I do not and did not expect anybody to do anything for free. So, to summarize, if there is anybody who wants to help the 'actual' issue here, either by getting payed or just giving free hints and tips to r1soft then please contact me (I can forward your contact info) or with r1soft. Dag-Erling Smørgrav already told me that I can send his info and I have sent his contact info to r1soft for this issue. I hope we can now stop arguing about all the other things :) It wasnt my intention to start such arguments. Thanks, Evren