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Date:      Mon, 01 May 2006 13:53:24 -0400
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        gnome@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Observations on Gnome-2.14
Message-ID:  <44564B14.3010606@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20060501162434.371EC45053@ptavv.es.net>
References:  <20060501162434.371EC45053@ptavv.es.net>

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Kevin Oberman wrote:
> I have one system running V6-stable that is now running Gnome-2.14. Some
> things are really nice about it, but there are some oddities and some
> things that need touching.
> 
> First, an easy one...netspeed_applet needs to be rebuilt. I think a bump
> of PORTREVISION is in order.

This has been done.

> 
> When I first started 2.14, I got messages that several icons
> (gnome-calculator, logout, screen-lock) could not be found and were
> displayed as white icons with a red 'X'. But after acknowledging the
> message, all of the icons appeared and work fine. 

I have not seen this on any of my machines.

> 
> This might be a race as I am running i386 on an AMD dual-core 4400+
> Athlon-64 processor and it may be getting something done before things
> are ready. This is also intermittent. It happens about half the time
> when I start Gnome. (I use startx, not gdm.)

Maybe, but that seems fishy.  I guess gnome-settings-daemon could be
taking a long time to startup.

> 
> On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are
> missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon"
> issue.
> 
> gnome-terminal has sometimes crashed on logout from Gnome. I have not
> tried to debug this at all. I do see that the contents of
> .gnome2/session no longer have information on all of the gnome-terminal
> windows. Just a simple command, so I guess gnome-terminal is storing
> this somewhere else. (I need to find out where to debug why at least one
> window never restarts.)

For GDM sessions, it's ~/.xsession-errors.  I thought startx would
output to the calling VTY.

> 
> Sessions are a bit messed up. As already reported, all manually
> startup-sessions are gone after the upgrade and must be re-entered. No
> longer is there an ordering option, but this might be settable via the
> "Current Session" tab. I'll paly around with it if I get a little time.
> 
> The logout tool no longer has a check-box to save the session. I THINK I
> saved it by going into the "Sessions" prefs and selecting to
> automatically save the session on logout and logging out. I then logged
> back in and de-selected that option. There is still an option (which is
> selected) to "Ask on logout". It appears to be a no-op in 2.14, though.

Correct.  It looks like they axed this for 2.14.  As a workaround,
gnome-session-save --gui will save your current session.

> Noise level issue: we really need a FreeBSD splash. The default Gnome
> splash is just too boring looking.

If you build it, we will vote.

Joe

- --
Joe Marcus Clarke
FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gnome@FreeBSD.org
FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
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