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Message-ID: <20170112165547.097193be@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:47:46 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >>On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply >>to mailing list". >> >>Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. > >Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" >and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, >depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the >mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact >that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. Evolution >OTOH invokes mailing list replies by "Reply to all". MUAs invoking >mailing list replies by "Reply to all" only reply to the mailing list, >but Claws does reply to the mailing list, as well as CC'ing to > >Reply-To: Polytropon > >if I use Claws-Mail's "Reply" (invoking a mailing list reply) or "Reply >to Mailing list" option. > >The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD >does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the >mailing list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman >lists sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the >original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. > >The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon > from the CC address bar. > >Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by >using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately >would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since >mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply >to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add >the mailing list address manually. > >Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply >possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't >understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the >behaviour of different MUAs. PS: Correction. Evolution distinguishes between "Group reply" and "Reply all". Not "Reply all", but "Group reply" invokes a mailing list reply. Anyway, it doesn't matter since the issue I'm referring to is related to those MUAs, that can invoke mailing list replies by "Reply".