From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 09:43:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9267853; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130598FC08; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA13059; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:42:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <50C9A321.5060407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:42:57 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: svn commit: r244112 - head/sys/kern References: <201212110708.qBB78EWx025288@svn.freebsd.org> <201212121046.43706.jhb@freebsd.org> <201212121658.49048.jhb@freebsd.org> <50C90567.8080406@FreeBSD.org> <50C909BD.9090709@mu.org> <50C97D94.1090603@FreeBSD.org> <50C97F8D.6010504@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alfred Perlstein , John Baldwin , svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, Alfred Perlstein , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:43:00 -0000 on 13/12/2012 09:16 Adrian Chadd said the following: > Hi, > > I think the fundamental problem here is we have some pretty different > ideas of what KASSERT should be, versus what it actually is in various > parts of the code. Oh, and another part of the problem is that the discussion is opinion based. But it didn't have to be. Compare this: We think that feature F is a very good idea, we think that it will be used by many people and it will provide a lot of benefits. So here you are - the code is in the tree. To this: We have been using feature F, it has proved to be a very good idea as it provided these benefits and spared us from these problems. So here you are - the code is in the tree. If I have a differing opinion in the first case I usually state it (and can be pulled into an argument about it). If I have a different opinion in the second case, I try to adjust my opinion to the stated reality. > Since we're lost in semantics, we're not going to get any further on > this discussion just for now, so let's take a break and think about > other things for now. -- Andriy Gapon