From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 30 00:57:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA27344 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 1995 00:57:11 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.0.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA27208 for ; Tue, 30 May 1995 00:56:51 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA08679 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org); Tue, 30 May 1995 10:58:26 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:58:39 +0300 To: Michael Smith From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** Problem with direct emacs+Macintosh NCSA Telnet 2.6 ** Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: >> And it does not explain why emacs is not in raw mode after fg. If I go ba= ck >> to emacs I can see all control-characters and I have to push return befor= e >> emacs interpretes the commands. > >Raw/line mode is handled by the telnet client. If your client is not going >back into raw mode, then there is a problem with your client. Why it works on indirect connection? Or does the "Unix box between" the mode change? >FreeBSD does the right thing; trust me. NCSA telnet for the Mac is >known to be quirky - if you don't have a solution for this in the next >couple of hours, I'll see if I can find a Mac to check it with, >but as I've said, I've done this before & know it works. Why does NCSA Telnet work on SunOS Release 4.1.3, Sun UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0, Linux 2.1, VAX/VMS, DEC OSF/1 V2.1 (Rev. 250) (Alpha), HPUX etc. But not with FreeBSD (and NetBSD if I remember correctly) I have just at this moment connection to all of those and emacs works fine everywhere but not in FreeBSD (itu.cc.jyu.fi (2.0) and www.cc.jyu.fi (SNAP 950412)). I did test vi also. Same problem with it as with emacs. >For accuracy's sake, which version of telnet for the Mac are you using? NCSA Telnet version is 2.6. I am using it for all machines we have without problems. FreeBSD is the only problem. I did test version 2.5 --- it works fine, no problems!!!! But I cannot use it it has no ISO 8859.1 Seppo