From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 14 23:39:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11892 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11773 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:39:21 GMT (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (cadezia-113.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.82.113]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id BAA25689 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:39:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00845 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804150639.BAA00845@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:39:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Project FreeBSD 98 To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan, In an earlier post you stated that we have 25,000 registered users. Is it possible to get a figure for the number of shipments of our last release? If 25,000 is the tip of the iceberg, it maybe useful to to get some idea of how large the iceberg is. This certainly won't be accurate, but it would be interesting to see how our numbers stack up against the 600,000 copies that RedHat shipped of their latest release. I spent some time on the phone talking to Linux workstation vendors and they related that they have customers that run FreeBSD on their platforms, but don't feel the need to feature it as part of their packaged systems. Also, checked with some software wholesallers that sell Linux and found that they also carry FreeBSD. Yet FreeBSD is not found in university bookstores alongside Linux. So what is my problem in all this? As a person that has sold a few things in their time, something here doesn't square. FreeBSD is being sold and used, but where the hell is it going, into a black hole or somewhere that we don't get any visibility. It appears that FreeBSD is the free software world's best kept secret. Anyway, Infoworld has been publishing some things on free software in the recent past, yes RedHat, Caldera, and BSDI, though the later is not free, and I am going to try whining to the editor as to why the free soft world's best kept secret is conspicuouss by its absence. Frank -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message