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Date:      Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:04:33 -0700
From:      R Joseph Wright <rjoseph@mammalia.org>
To:        Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Signal 11 on 4-Stable buildworld; bad memory or what?
Message-ID:  <20000717230433.A478@manatee.mammalia.org>
In-Reply-To: <3973B316.C4442AAF@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:29:58PM -0700
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On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:29:58PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> 
> R Joseph Wright wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 07:24:41PM -0400, Chris wrote:
> > > I like the AMD's, have a K6-3/450 here with a really heavy Alpha
> > > heatsink on it and a 27cfm bearing fan.  Even with that fan... it just
> > > doesn't like make buildworld or building X without the case cover off
> > > though. Though it's not a small problem... it still performs well for me
> > > overall.  My older K6/2 200 here can build all day no problem...the new
> > > ones just got really hot.
> > >
> > > I actually had to give up on fbsd for my work desktop because the
> > > cheapie fan on the K6/2 450 I have just wouldn't cut it, even with the
> > > case off and the thing would just plain reboot on any moderate sized
> > > builds. I just don't have the time at the office to mess with it and my
> > > workstation is a management station of sorts as well.
> > 
> > I had these problems with my K6/2 450 until I finally got out the sandpaper
> > and lapped both the CPU and the heatsink.  The heatsink needed it much worse
> > than the CPU.  I have had only one reboot since I did that while loading the
> > system heavily with an X build.  Even one reboot is not good, but it's much
> > better than it was.
> 
> They weren't flat or what. I found I could cook the heat transfer tape
> using an overclocked Celeron. I replaced the tape with heatsink
> compound but doing a build of XFree86 3.3.4 had finished cooking the
> cpu. I remember reading before where you did that and was going to ask
> you why.
> 

The CPU wasn't totally flat, though not as warped as I'd heard they tended 
to be.  The heatsink, OTOH, had a little plateau on the bottom of it about an
inch wide.  That is the only part of it that was in contact with the CPU,
don't ask me why it was designed that way!
After I got done with it, the CPU and heatsink fit together so nicely it 
was like they were drawn together. Then I put a thin layer of heatsink 
grease between them. 
The lapping made a big difference because now a much larger surface area 
is being cooled. 

> > 
> > www.pcpowercooling.com sells heavy duty heatsink/fans for many processors
> > including the K6/2.  If my problems ever return I plan to buy one from them.
> 
> Another place is http://www.3dfxcool.com/. He has some fans that look
> like they would lift the case off if you weren't using the cpu as a
> thrust reverser.
> 
> Kent
> 
> -- 
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> Richland, WA
> 
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