From owner-freebsd-bugs Thu Jun 1 8: 7:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8322E37BA2F for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e51F7KB12878; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:07:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e51F7KM20284; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:07:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e51F7Ks95515; Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:07:19 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/18900: patch to add colorizing feature to /bin/ls Message-ID: <20000601170719.A18925@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <20000531095153.A80830@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <200005311200.IAA29719@lakes.dignus.com> <20000531140859.A44791@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000601142524.A19841@matrix.42.org> <20000601161114.A18501@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <20000601165544.A24155@matrix.42.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000601165544.A24155@matrix.42.org>; from sec@42.org on Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 04:55:44PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 01-Jun-2000 at 16:55:44 +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 04:11:14PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > On Thu, 01-Jun-2000 at 14:25:24 +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > > > The problem is to draw the line. Surely we will nevae have netscape in > > > base. But perl we do. I (and many others) think that colorized ls is > > > gimmicky enough to have no place in the base system. Color-ls gains you > > > no new information. > > > > Does less do this compared to more? > > Or /usr/src/games (I know, they can be disabled). > > less is a port, for this exact reason. And it will be in the base system replacing more. > > > No, there won't be gained new information. It never was the goal of > > a colorised ls to gain new information. > > Ok. So make it a port :) It is a port. > > [...] > > > Make it a port, so everybody can be happy. Everybody I know who installs > > It _is_ already a port. However, the ports ls distfile does not have the same > > features as /bin/ls has. > > So update the port an be done with it. I can't. Someone else has to do it. > > > So everytime someone changes /bin/ls the port would > > have to be sync'ed again (which costs developers/commiters time). > > And now everyone who canges ls has to wantch out not to break your > precious color patch. The precious color patch (which is stolen form the port indeed) needs to be applied once. The port has to be updated every time /bin/ls changes. > > > > a FreeBSD system installs his favourite ports first. For me it's zsh, > > > screen, less and vim. If for you this includes colorls so go ahead and > > > add that port on a new install, but please don't influct this on the > > > rest of us. > > Again: It is an option (-G) that you don't have to use. I assume there are > > many programs in the base systems with options you don't use (and maybe > > even don't know about). You don't scream about them because they are already > > there. > > And again: There are many programs I use every day, starting with my > shell (zsh). But I still don't go running around and claim it should be > imported in base, just because I can't live without it. That's ok. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message