From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 7 11:39:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19962 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19925 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22728; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:38:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Mike Smith cc: Marc Slemko , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Subject: Re: Lite-On PNIC (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199810071821.LAA01419@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > You're proposing to provide Bill with examples of -all- the different > > varients of the Tulip cards and enough hard drugs to keep in in the state > > of mind required to do the work? > > I was actually planning on just feeding the non-Digital-based cards to > Bill, as most of them are cut-downs. We're certainly more than happy > to facilitate providing hardware to developers, especially ones with > track records like Bill's. 8) You didn't say anything about the hard drugs. :) > It almost certainly would be. The problem is that the 'de' driver is > (meant to be) maintained by Matt Thomas, who has been extremely quiet > of late (due to a move and other things). We've supplied Matt with > hardware in the past (eg. a Macronix card a month or so back), but his > responses have been kinda patchy, and as you've seen the net result is > an almost unmaintainable mess. Humm... My experience with Matt has been rather good but the last time I talked to him re: the de driver was about 3 years ago when I was trying to get a Znyx 314 card to work. In all likelyhood the multi OS nature of the de driver is what is causing the most problem. > Having spent some time headfirst in the 'de' dungheap, I'd be inclined > to say that it really needs to be a pile of well-specified function > vectors with a large heap of access and personality macros. There's > just far too much "if tulip_chipid == foo" logic in there, not to > mention more #ifdefs than anyone wants to see. Cool. Coherent design. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message