From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 11:20:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C32106566B for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4635E8FC15 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so1561639obc.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=P8gkCFEqWa2YngnMy2zshwmSchgzH/0Kui5V50T+zfg=; b=Ko2yr20YZYVwE3N22hWoHO10GUP0JZI6bvzWrYjH+MxUEDLi2DCa6rERwuBkeFg/RU nWCmXcuHy0mMKBbYafExEfbjJGXqbdJrk2lGGDAvSn1yAblUCJknyzopJwuTL1Kcx+3U 0f2XZrV9LFPWgWPuEQwc8IFkLJyni5PdKc+ltZUPs6SDpQeYJZUVqcAt2KA9SxDOUY0X h35VQKmQV8y3ZUW8MEIIluS6TbyZ08SGlrNHTw2IKrSUuUrQbuInTqKA9D1Lz49SG0cu nyCysxQBZ2fVgmp1tlK8RaCFumdgrIw6a7I9S87DyDNP8FHXmdq9GZmROzBuNvZF2JwO YhpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.11.69 with SMTP id o5mr1705551obb.33.1338463251613; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.167.130 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80C9CF39-B4B2-4F2E-BC30-138BB692C91A@my.gd> References: <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd> <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net> <80C9CF39-B4B2-4F2E-BC30-138BB692C91A@my.gd> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:20:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: Claus Guttesen To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:20:52 -0000 >>> A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot >>> A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after >>> installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports) >> >> But how often do you need to > > As a matter of fact, too often, that's te problem. > > We have > 800 servers and I can't argue that debian's update process is much simpler and faster. Take a look at freebsd-update: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html. This tracks release. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare twitter.com/kometen