From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 14:09:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9A41065670 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D128FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so1582791pbb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:09:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=wGmqACA2civvRf2mSnmYb8XtWstig29MhQrY1bSC358=; b=kWFnkYtVuaxEZCKfePzGunup4Zfd+byoyNP+zxvN4wZe3HZGX623XHCa8BuZwod5cm ISE8E7k+b2h5ZFcIRKxIKz+n5TauRINjv3uSvOpbQ1msDwFArCtdSiEGAoDFuTNcoGiw YkAX3teDJcZN5WZyu88s8/OF8TERONofgDvY21fvHVBjpOz6YgpGJ4HiOH9tRglhwiuG tk4iYpM/TrSio74HMIc9qfZaQ3lnhX72Z5mlPXbrG976pPosEt1Xuhh0ZX7q02hODhYR FOYyCBpEd4LPzw/ElMDLV2HaiwCfJjlOEx8Zgz8rOgt8RmDXGOlRzMw92d+OxlGZETw5 WsKQ== Received: by 10.66.87.138 with SMTP id ay10mr46301601pab.38.1345644583411; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.63] (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oj8sm3782308pbb.54.2012.08.22.07.09.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:09:34 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1EFE819C-1360-4596-9241-45542D71EA7A@bsdimp.com> References: <20120820194313.GC23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120821132643.GE37262@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20120821134623.GH5044@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033D0C0.4030805@FreeBSD.org> <20120821190500.GA46595@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033E39C.3060700@FreeBSD.org> <20120821194208.GC46595@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033E6BA.8080309@FreeBSD.org> <5033EC58.3000801@FreeBSD.org> To: Bjoern A. Zeeb X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmGbJ+/yDxnrLWGwWCtD+9kR0ijrMoFEOrr2C7diYPJ+FzDl0pzYMo7kRDsFx+L3b63w4pj Cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:09:44 -0000 On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Doug Barton wrote: >=20 >> I don't think we have ever done a complete replacement of major >> infrastructure in one release. >=20 > You mean like sysinstall can be used as an installer on 9 that would > do something meaningful with the current infrastructure we provide? You understood my oblique sysinstall reference... The 'can't do it in = one release' is a red herring. The current package system is by no = means as good as sysinstall was before it was replaced. The new one is = much better and deserves a shot of 'replace in one' if it proves to be = ready. Anything contrary to that is just obstructionism. Warner