From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jun 3 2:56: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DDD14F2E for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA09460; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA04535; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA18668; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:55:28 +0100 Message-ID: <19990603105528.T22307@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:55:28 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Wes Peters , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals References: <199906020817.MAA31586@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> <37556EAB.6101B755@softweyr.com> <3755710C.C32B06F4@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3755710C.C32B06F4@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:59:40AM -0600 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:59:40AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > > I just poked around the Tekmetrics web site, and it looks pretty good. > > If anyone is interested in creating FreeBSD certifications, as a > > programmer, system administrator, or security administrator, working > > with Tekmetrics to make FreeBSD-specific versions of their generic > > UNIX exams would be a good starting point. > > > > http://www.tekmetrics.com/ (duh!) > > This topic came up in the -security mailing list, but is related to > an occasional discussion here in -advocacy. Tekmetrics has a "reseller" > program, where you can sell their certification tests on your own web > site. This would certainly be appropriate for the FreeBSD Mall and > any other vendor of FreeBSD-related good or services. > > If possible, I'd like for several of the -advocates to surf over there, > look at the trial tests, and perhaps take the UNIX programmer or UNIX > system administrator test as their free test, to get a feeling if this > is something we'd like to pursue. I've just done this; Congratulations! You passed at the Master's Level with a score of 4.46. You are now a Certified Master Unix Administrator. Whoo hoo I receive the certificate in 4-6 weeks apparently. It's a 40 question multiple choice test (5 choices per question). You get 180 seconds per question (Javascript controlled) and most of the answers would easily be found in the man pages. I'm not sure of the overall value. I now get to put links to http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=26428 anywhere I want (so be looking out for a commit to www/en/index.sgml soon :-) ) which is nice. In my experience as a contractor I'm not sure if this counts for much, as the vast majority of companies will have their own Unix tests that they give you at the first or second interview. And this web one is trivially easy to cheat on, just by making sure you've got access to a set of Unix manual pages. The majority of the test applies to FreeBSD. There are a couple of questions in there that are SysV-ish, like K30tcp K70cron S15preserve S50rpc K40nfs K99inet S30tcp S70cron K50rpc S01MOUNTOFSYS S40nfs During shutdown, which prefixes in the sample code directory list above are of interest? Choice 1 All S's Choice 2 All K's Choice 3 K99 S99 Choice 4 K30 S30 K50 K70 K70 S70 Choice 5 S01MOUNTOFSYS which could be replaced by questions about /etc/rc.conf and friends. I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't pursue this, as I don't think there's a cost to the project as a whole. However, one thing that might be worth thinking about. Roughly 6 months ago I approached -core about the Amazon and Barnes and Noble partnership programs. My idea was to put links to the appropriate books from the Handbook bibliography on the site, and get a percentage of the revenue from any links via the bibliography. -core decided this was not a good idea, which is fair enough. This reseller-test program works along the same lines, so -core may have the same objections. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message