From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 3 12:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20320 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20287 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA007503942; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:59:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/9864: make rblcheck use relay.orbs.org instead of dorkslayers.com In-Reply-To: <199902032036.MAA11706@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Cy Schubert wrote: > Dialup users are not the issue. Spam is! For example, dialup > users who send out legitimate email are not the problem. Spammers > who send out emails about the latest sex site, some get rich quick > scheme, or from religious zealots seeking a following, IMO are the > problem. [rest of long useless rant deleted, we all know why spam is bad.] I don't like spam either, but not including dialup users in with the main list is silly. Dialup users aren't the problem, spammers are, lets not forget that. As far as me using my ISPs mail server, it's my right to handle my mail how I want to. My IP space as a dialup user may be small and low on bandwidth, but singling out large blocks of addresses just because one person on that ISP sent spam is silly. Half the spam I receive comes from non-North American sites, should I just blackhole the rest of the world? Deal with specific users/ISPs, don't single out users, that's why there is contact info in Internic/RIPE/APnic/ARIN records. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message